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. >> when they talk about the calamitous end of the earth, people in law enforcement take notice. >> jim jones, curesh, history has shown that these things happen. >> a point of concern, the church-owned grocery store, the only big store in the community, was abruptly sold down. not only was this the sole groce rhee store, but it was a gathering point. authorities are afraid its closing may signify something dire. >> is it your belief that warren jeffs believes the store doesn't need to be open because the earth is ending. >> what do warren jeffs' faithful followers have to say about all this? they're told to never talk to reporters, and some use their reporter intimidation technique, large vehicles speeding and screeching by us. and then emitting black smoke for added emphasis. one of the things we're hearing is he's been talking about the possible end of time, end of the world, and that people need to be faithful. is that your understanding of what he's been talking about also? >> i would rather not talk. >> a lot of ladies in this community don't want to talk to me. are you one of the
is out of step with its members. joining me now is virginia congressman jim moran. briefly, let me ask you first about the fiscal cliff because i have you here. you and your members will get back to work tomorrow. i'm wondering is there going to be a last ditch effort to avoid this and what do you think is going to happen? >> i think the likelihood is that we go over the cliff, martin. and, of course, that's my primary focus because my congressional district would be the hardest hit if beat go over the fiscal cliff. i've got tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal of defense spending would be at risk. so if we don't suspend the sequester and it looks like this very small deal may not even achieve that, then i'd have to be a "no" vote. so if i had to guess right now, i don't think we're going to be able to reach a deal no matter how small it might be. of course, at the very best, all we would do is stumble forward for a couple more months until we hit the debt ceiling and then face another crisis which is really a crisis of confidence in the government. i just can't imag
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